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Laser Cutter vs. Scroll Saw | MORE MINUTES

Laser Cutter vs. Scroll Saw | MORE MINUTES

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  1. Mark Thieme

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    good advice on the wood working funk! whats your favorite type of project to do and least favorite? tfs 🙂 thumbs up

  2. Western Revival

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I have a $120 craftsman scroll saw…. I have produced amazing work with it, with very little practice…

  3. Paul Hardy

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I think for many younger woodworkers who are more comfortable with computers than things with fast moving razor sharp blades that even for one off projects and building the tools are part of their creativity. A lot of open source software and inexpensive but upgradable CNC routers, lasers, 3D printers are out there. I grew up on hand tools and power tools but also with computers. I have a printbot simple metal 3D printer that I am upgrading to make large pieces.

  4. Henk-Jan Bakker

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Heat gun? Blow-dryer on hot will do the trick. It does not need all that much heat.

  5. YardontheHill

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    To me, laser, CNC, automated work is manufacturing. Woodworking can be a subset of that. Most of us weekend warrior types working in our garages etc I see as woodworkers. But you are right, if you want to make money and churn out batches of items then cnc is a way to do that.

  6. YesMan85

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    wait, so no laser cutting?

  7. geordiemik72

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    That old thing about 'is it woodwork' crops up every time somebody invents a new tool or method for doing stuff. I bet our great, great grandfathers called each other names when one of them junked his coping saw and bought a scroll saw! New technologies annoy some people but also bring new blood(!) to the hobby. Nobody wants to spend for ever trying to gain the skills to use a panel saw these days but they might just get interested if they can buy a table saw or a band saw, so it's not all bad news. Just try not to think of the old guy with a wife and 9 kids to support by hand-making those funny looking planes we used to buy before we discovered routers.

  8. Lachlan Ross

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    a laser cutter is just a tool just like a scroll saw is

  9. Jason McCabe (Camulas)

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    It depends on the heart of the woodworker. If it is just someone who sits on their butt watching Youtube, while the machine makes the design, and then they just get up and change the board out… NO that is not wood working, but if a person uses the machine and then finishes it, and makes it great then, Yes that is wood working. If it just turns into assembly line crap, then it is the lowest form of menial tasks… not wood working. I would hate to see wood working turned into something so cold and detached.

  10. Marc Eaton

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I am sure if we had some craftsman from two to four hundred years ago they would look at a power planner and and jointer as not being wood working. What do you think?

  11. Dude Slick

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Good video Steve. I'm building a CNC router for the fun of it and will use it for a lot of things. But I plan to continue hand crafting my guitars. Also, I love Adobe Illustrator, but for those on a budget Inkscape is awesome.

  12. Jason Olshefsky

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I enjoyed the video but I think you oversold the laser cutter. Once you get past the marketing hype, they are rather finicky machines and require a kind of knowledge that isn't the same as for wood—dealing with things like power, energy, beam diameter, temperature rise, and potentially hazardous smoke (with plastics or even the glues in laminated wood.) Entry level machines are quite limited in their cutting power as well, and may not cut harder woods or even modestly thick pieces (e.g. <30mm).

  13. Luke Campbell

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Too much work!

  14. Harman Robotics

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    You don't want to leave the room while a laser is cutting, many fires have started that way.

  15. Gaviano Fernando

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Ma perchè parli cosi tanto???

  16. Adam Pierce

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    a little too much soapbox and not enough show and tell.

  17. Jeppe77

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Did i miss the part of the laser cutter??

  18. Joe Hanson

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Even a $20 heat gun would be perfectly fine for many applications and there are lots of uses around the house for one if you like to undertake projects.

  19. Poptart McJelly

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    What ever works your wood

  20. 1976ClassicCelica

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I think it would be cool if you did a retro show with a beard and mustache like the old Youtube days.

  21. MrPyroska

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Just a small note, if u invert the colors u can save toner 🙂 or was it on purpose this way?

  22. damasydia

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    My heat gun is indispensable

  23. Dark Alchemist

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Who cares how it is made as long as someone loves it?

  24. RodimusTSO

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Pro tip, put a black border on white text to make it more visible against the background

  25. WigWagWorkshop

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I wouldn't mind having a laser cutter for making HO scale model railroad buildings. There are some awesome kits available, that are designed and produced buy a guy in his train room. That being said, you almost have to be a master craftsman to assemble his kits lol.

  26. Zeshan Sarwar

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I am new to woodworking and have been watching your older videos for quite a while. When I watched this video it made me sad. You have aged quite a bit. Not any thing that we humans can control. Not disrespecting or anything. Its just if you are use to seeing someone young for a long time and the next day you see them all grownup. Its that kind of shock. But you still rock. Keep up the good work. I wish you all the best.

  27. artistwo

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    get heat gun from harbour frieght a good gun and cheap too

  28. Paul Frederick

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    To do batch jobs on a scroll saw you just stack the parts on top of one and another. You can cut a few at a time then. The professional scroll saw is not particularly cheap either. I met a fellow at a show last week that was a scroll sawyer. He used a Hawk scroll saw that he told me he spent $1,600 on. Still cheaper than what a laser cutter costs, but not a little more than one hundred dollars either. But yeah, forget about earning a lot an hour selling products you scroll sawed out by hand. This guy was selling items he'd spent 5+ hours on for about $35, which is below minimum wage, even before you factor in materials costs.

  29. eliblessed

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    The way I see it, a laser cutter is good for businesses, but it loses something important: soul. I have a good way to describe this: Imagine you have sheet music for a piano song. a laser cutter is like a midi file. it will replicate the keys perfectly, with machine precision. BUT, if you find a great piano player, the song will move your soul. a new piano player tries to copy the sheet-music perfectly, so they are not as good as a midi. but a concert pianist? they will add little things here and there, hold a note for effect, etc. they put their soul into it.

    That is how I think of it anyway….

  30. Robert Seviour

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I was hoping to see a laser cutter in action, since until recently I had not even heard of this tool (for woodwork, that is).

    Although I know others will disagree, may I suggest that you make videos without 'tinkley' background music, I find it very distracting.

  31. Wolf Lahti

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    "Making a basket, or making a horseshoe, or giving anything form, gives you a confidence in the universe."
    ―Robert Frost (1874–1963)

  32. Geoff Beck

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Thanks Steve I love your vids and your philosophy. I am a rank amateur but I just love the feel and look of wood. I think the handmade articles have far more character than machine made and I always think of the person putting their skill and passion into the finished article.

  33. skyfooty

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    inkscape is a great vector drawing programming. it's open source and free and you can even convert images to vector graphics.

  34. jimbooth3

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Instead of a heat gun, use a hair blow dryer. I've been using one for years to remove adhesive labels.

  35. SeraphimKnight

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I have a personal, deep hatred of the font Bleeding Cowboys. It is a terrible free font and used to profusely in small company graphics… I just hate it so bad.

  36. William Cockerham

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Honestly being a hobiest I agree fully on your ideals. It is really cool to do scroll saw work, and I don't like the thoughts of CNC but that is only because I mainly look from custom one off work. but it is start working on massive production I'd end up buying one.

  37. pjtsr

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I think it time to revisit the "Woodwright Shop" !

  38. Bala Chandar

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Thanks Steve, for the detailed comparison between laser cutters and scroll saws.
    Can working with a laser cutter be called woodworking? If one makes only key chains and trinkets using a laser cutter, it's very similar to producing text on a paper using a laser printer and by no stretch of imagination can it be called "handwriting". But most woodworking projects like making a table, bed, stool or a jig require you to measure and cut parts, drill holes, join parts, drive screws, apply glue and clamps, etc. For precision and consistency some parts may be made using a laser cutter and in this case, using a laser cutter or a CNC machine is very much a part of woodworking.

  39. metamech

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I order my wood pieces cut for me online and simply glue the pieces together after receiving them in the mail. I'm hardcore woodworking.

  40. Ezra Smith

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I put a comment in your last video and you said you would mentioned me but you forgot me I asked is that a lathe by your scroll saw

  41. nitetrane98

    March 31, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    People that can program these CNCs are extremely talented at making a machine do their will. It all semantics. Is a man who cuts down trees a woodworker? Is a man who loads a part and pushes a button a machinist? A true woodworker is one who knows how to fix their mistakes. Machines don't quite have the hang of that yet.

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